In 1968, ABC, the generic cereal of news organizations, (the set literally collapsed during the RNC) decided to host ten debates during the Democratic and Republican conventions. They chose two people from opposite sides of the political spectrum, to debate one another. William F. Buckley, a conservative, had his own show called, Firing Line, which was like Carlson Tucker’s show, only smugger. Gore Vidal, a liberal, and Carry Grant look alike, was a writer and playwright. The moderator of the debate, was Howard K Smith, an ABC political commentator. The debaters detested one another and the debates got really heated. The two men were polar opposites and the only thing they had in common, was that they were both elitists. Most people don’t know, there was actually an eleventh debate, which they decided not to air. Below is a complete transcript.
Smith: Good evening, we are here tonight for our eleventh and final debate, between Mr. William Buckley and Mr. Gore Vidal. Now gentlemen, it got a little too heated on our last debate and resulted in some hate speech, with the words, ‘crypto-Nazi’ and ‘queer,’ being used. Let’s try and keep it civil and stick to the issues. I mean, no one is watching, but still, it’s a family network.
Buckley: {holds pinky up} Of course Howard, and I’d like to explicate on what I was saying in the last debate about Vietnam. I wasn’t finished using my extensive vocabulary.
Smith: Our time is limited, because we have to show commercials advertising household products, in a misogynist manner that condescends women. So, let’s get to the issues. Mr. Vidal, I will start with you. People wonder if you are a communist, because of your ideological beliefs. Can you answer that charge once and for all?
Vidal: {holds pinky up higher than Buckley} Yes, but first I’d like to insult Mr. Buckley in a defunct patrician accent.
Smith: Again, our time is limited and we have a lot of ground to cover.
Vidal: To answer your question, I am not a communist. I agree with many of its tenants, especially with Karl Marx, who defined communism as, ‘the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat.’
Smith: So, you are a champion of the working class?
Vidal: Yes, the working class are the pillar that hold up society and please stop making direct eye contact with me.
Buckley: Pay no attention to him Mr. Smith, he’s an elitist, who scoffs at a hard days work. He has never done a hard days work in his life. You do need to advert your eyes though.
Smith: {looks down}
Buckley: You need to bow your head a little lower. Maybe just turn your chair and face the wall.
Smith: {turns chair around} Mr. Buckley, do you think religion should have any place in politics?
Buckley: As you know, I’m a member of the Knight’s of Columbus. We go around taking any remaining lands, still owned by Native Americans. Also, we have the occasional fish fry.
Vidal: [snickers] What balderdash!
Buckley: Mr. Vidal interrupted me and I wasn’t finished enunciating. Dear God man, look at me when I am speaking to you.
Smith: {Turning his chair back around} Gentleman please, we don’t have a lot of time and the people want to hear the issues. Also, this set may collapse again at any moment. We are on a shoestring budget and we will have to pay you both with a roll of quarters and a vat of Bactine Medicated Skin Cream. Mr Vidal, do you think if Nixon becomes President, that he will get us out of the war in Vietnam?
Vidal: Mr. Nixon’s stance on Vietnam is vague and unclear. He, however, is a hawk, so one would doubt it. What is clear though, is that Mr. Buckley is a conservative philistine with no humane qualities.
Buckley: You are a depraved liberal degenerate!
Vidal: You sir are a conservative villian!
Smith: Gentlemen please!
Buckley: Why don’t you go expatriate yourself.
Vidal: I am not an expatriate; I just choose to live in Italy, to be far away from you and your banal views. {mumbles} crypto-Nazi.
Buckley: {rises angrily} I heard that. {picks up his chair and swings it at Vidal. It misses and hits Howard on the head knocking him unconscious}
Buckley: I am leaving; I can not debate a man with no morals and whose prose is obscene.
Vidal: {nudges the unconscious Smith} Do I still get my facial cream?
{Cameraman cuts to a cigarette commercial, where a whole family is smoking a pack of Pall Mall’s at the dinner table}
Training video: How to insult your opponent in a debate with class.
Wow, Marietta. You hit the nail on the head with the eleventh debate. That clip was so elitist and pompous, it’s almost unwatchable. UGH. The sad thing is that it’s hardly any better these days.
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I actually love a lot of Vidal’s writing; he’s liberal like myself, but in all honesty, I think he had dementia the latter part of his life, because he went a little off the rails in his conspiracy theories. I just love to make fun of his aristocratic accent. I’ve watched a lot of clips of their debates and it’s mesmerizing; it’s like two Shakespearean actors.
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Buckley on the other hand, for all of his extensive knowledge and vocabulary, when it came right down to something he didn’t like, he threaten to punch the other person in the face. He threatened to punch Gore Vidal, Noam Chomksy and I think Kurt Vonnegut.
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Ha! 😀
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Deftly entertaining, as usual. New drinking game: Take a swig every time anyone in the video uses an unnecessary word. I don’t think I’ll last thirty seconds. (“…burlesque…”)
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Or drink whenever one of them makes a smug face. Maybe one day Brian, someone will use the word, ‘burlesque’ about our work. One can only hope.
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Unfortunately I have difficulty thinking of two men or women of this caliber to watch in a format like this today.
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